Discussion Forums

 
Reply by Carriek
05 Nov 2012, 12:28 AM

Hello Again
I know its been awhile since I wrote, I truly feel likje an old broken record. I dont feel like I am doing well. I feel so down, our lives have changed so much, the energy required to put on my presentable face takes energy that Im not sure I have.
Im finding that there are days that I get up and get out of the house... and Im okay
but there are days that if even in the middle of the day I drop in home... thats it..I dont want to leave.. I want to hide
Then there are days that I dont want to leave the house at all...
Our hospice grief councillor is no longer working for Hospice...so there is no councilling available for myself and the twins.. I cannot afford to pay for seeing councillors for all three of us...
Im not sure where to turn, I want to just sit down and cry.....
How on Earth do spouses EVER get through this? How do they ever carry on, smile again and feel okay ?
Its only been three months (going on 4) and I just cant bear that he is not coming home.
The lonliness, the sadness, the emptiness.......
I keep re-living every word we shared when dealing with his cancer, his pain, his tears, his fears and it breaks my heart.
I truly wish I knew of someone in my area that lost her husband that I could spend time with.... that I could have coffee with - maybe so I could feel normal, maybe so I could share feelings and not feel people are judging me... thinking its time to accept and move on....
Im not sure that I will ever not feel this present sadness, on the verge of tears at all times.
I keep telling myself that other people have gotten through it, but I guess it would help to talk to some of those people.
carriek :(                
 

Report this post      
 
Reply by Carriek
05 Nov 2012, 12:46 AM

Dear Jane
I have been wondering how you are doing, I re-read your posts and feel a closeness to you, as I hear the sadness and pain in your words.
I think of you often, wondering how you are, and know how you must be feeling.... as Im feeling the same. I am here if you would like to talk. Maybe we can help each other.
(((hugs))))
CarrieK     

Report this post      
 
Reply by Brayden
05 Nov 2012, 1:53 AM

Dear Carriek,
I hear the raw pain that both you and the twins are experiencing. You are going through the process of grieving just like many before you. You are so right in feeling the need to connect with someone in your circumstances, just so you can validate your feelings. How sad that your Hospice councillor left but I would like tosuggest some other options. Not knowing where you live, I would; contact the office where this individual worked and ask where you could find a replacement; see if there is a volunteer Hospice organization in your area; contact the social worker at the hospital where your love died;many funeral homes provide this service for free. My heart goes out to you and I hope you have the strength to find the support you need. Please continue to use this forum too. Peace
Brayden 
Report this post      
 
Reply by PPP
05 Nov 2012, 3:38 AM

Dear Carriek

And yes, I have often thought of hiding away, hoping that when you come out, everything will be normal again.  It’s like you’re walking in a fog and waiting for it to lift, so that you can see more clearly! .   Slowly the fog does lift and you begin to start and feel something normal your life again.  It seems only the little things at first, but that’s ok.  We are in no rush to get the grief over with!  We have lots of time and we need to remember this!  I am a fine one to talk!  I get very upset with myself for crying some days and wanting to hide as you said.  When I look back 3 months ago, I was in a different place than I am right now and as you said, I was always on the verge of tears at the thought of not ever seeing my Avery again.  And yes, even saying this brings tears to my eyes, but saying this helps me get through the grieving. 

As you mentioned, someone to talk with makes you feel like you’re not alone.  We both have been in the same place and need to express our grief.    I find all the “firsts” I have had to do by myself (without Avery) make me feel very alone.  I guess that’s why we’re ok one day and not the next!  Every occasion presents another obstacle to overcome!  And yes, we want normal so bad!  We have to create a new normal on a daily basis.  Difficult to do at first because we had the caregiver routine for so long.  I have gradually changed my routine, trying to create a new one, one small step at a time; even if its just changing the time I eat supper. I remember going in circles some days, not accomplishing anything!  No concentration whatsoever!  It is gradually coming back.  Be patient with yourself!  We tend to be too hard on ourselves!

Believe it or not, just typing this out gives me a little peace of mind, that maybe I am healing my heart, the one that has been broken for so long.

Keep sending posts as this has helped me bring out some of my frustrations I didn’t even know existed until I put them on paper.


Regards Jane

Report this post      
 
Reply by Tian
05 Nov 2012, 9:39 PM

Dear Carriek and Jane

Grief doesn't follow any timetable and doesn't end all of a sudden.  So as you alluded to Jane I think you have to be in one day at a time mode as you were when your husbands were getting more and more ill. But unlike then I think you can expect things to gradually get easier. The void left by your husbands will always remain but little by little, at some point a new normalcy will be achieved. I think Brayden offers excellent suggestions for finding support.

Continuing to hang around,

Tian 
Report this post      
 
05 Nov 2012, 10:42 PM

Hi Carrie,

I'm so sorry to hear that your grief counsellor has left the hospice. Brayden gave you some great leads to follow-up with. Should you like us to help you find specific resources in your area, please submit your request to our Ask a Professional service. Our clinical nurse specialist will be happy to connect you with in person support.

I'm not sure if I already showed you these article written by our team:

Also, for your teen girls, I thought you might like to know about this website - www.teensanddeath.com. It is an intitiative of the Nanaimo Community Hospice Society in British Columbia especially for teens. Perhaps they too will find support online in this safe place.

Jane,
Thank you for continuing to share on Virtual Hospice. Have you seen the message from highlanddancermom40? She writes a brief message to her sister, having worked through several stages of grief. Today marks 1 1/2 years...It gets easier :)

Take care,
Colleen
Report this post      
 
Reply by Cath1
07 Nov 2012, 10:26 PM

Dear Carolyn (Carriek) and Jane (PPP):

It is an awful shame that your counsellor is no longer working with hospice, Carolyn. I have no idea how these things work in practicality, but it's very sad to hear that just when grief counselling is most needed it is not available to you when you are least capable of tracking it down. I don't know why, when such a service ended, you were not given help to make arrangements in your area for another counsellor. I imagine it feels so overwhelming for you and the girls to begin again with someone new.

Jane, it's wonderful that you are writing to Carolyn. You each know how it feels to lose your husband to cancer and that firsthand experience you share is so important. You can share with one another the things you have found to help you cope. Your mutual understanding of what the other is experiencing is precious.

Carolyn, I'm so hoping that you will be able to find someone locally to connect with for counselling, and ideally someone you can meet with in person who has been through or is going through the same experience of loss. There should be some sort of service that connects people in your situation. Brayden, Tian and Colleen have given you some great direction and encouragement and I hope you will be able to take the steps to get you and your girls reconnected with counselling services soon.

You and Jane are both wonderful women, Carolyn! You are adapting to grief even and though it is beyond painful right now for you, it will improve! Don't worry yourself with how others who have not walked in your shoes may judge you. The only expectation when grieving that matters is your own. You are hard too on yourself, Carolyn and I hope you learn to give yourself the credit you deserve for surviving this sorrowful time with so little support! It must feel hard to get up each day and even harder to be around people who have no idea how deeply your heart is breaking. It is okay to want to hide, and it's great that mostly you don't because hiding away will only add to your feelings of loneliness and isolation. I understand completely the temptation.

Jane has come so far in a short period of time but it probably feels like a neverending journey. She has had to learn to rely upon herself and to accept help from others as she is grieving and the courage that takes, as you too know, Carolyn, is immense. It's not easy to become suddenly single after years of living with and loving your soulmate - it's hard to know who you are and where you are going when you've been so used to being the other half of a couple. And to make things feel so much harder, you and Jane both have the traumatic memories of your husband's illness and death to contend with. It must be so hard to not to think about the sadness. One day though, when you feel stronger, your happier memories will start to overtake the sad ones.

Carolyn, are you able to find any pleasure in things you once enjoyed - hobbies that once distracted your attention or relaxed you? Some people when under severe stress find knitting is helpful as a tension reliever for example. You may right now be feeling so listless and discouraged that you are not interested in doing anything at all. It is very natural to feel like you and your life will never again feel "normal". I remember feeling that way after my Mom died and I thought I would never again really experience joy. Everything I felt and did and imagined doing in the future was thought of in terms of before my Mom died and after. It was a line of distinction that seared my heart with fear for the future. I believed the intensity of the pain which left me numb would leave me feeling hollow about life forever. It took a very long time to feel again that life was rich and worth living, even though, like you and Jane, I have children I adore, but their love and support could not force me to feel happy when quite simply I could not. It took time and I had to have a lot patience with myself. I wished daily that time would pass quickly and that I would rise above the misery I felt. Time passed slowly. Slowly I began to heal. You will too, Carolyn, and so will Jane.
 
Carolyn, I know that the feelings and experiences you and Jane share with one another resonant most deeply with each of you, and I hope you will continue to write to one another to receive the support you need. You are never alone Jane and Carolyn and I think if you keep expressing the pain you feel, with people in person when you can, and with us here, you will find some release from the relentless sorrow you feel in your soul. Time will keep passing and with it the sorrow will be begin to ease. Know I am with you both - thinking of you - feeling for you - and believing in you! 

Here's a quote I found and I dedicate it to you both, Carolyn and Jane: 

"Give sorrow words; the grief that does not speak knits up the o-er wrought heart and bids it break.”   -- William Shakespeare (Macbeth) 
  
Thank you both for writing - I have missed you both - please come back soon!:):) Keep talking and reaching out - we are here for you!
  
With affection -hugs- -xo-
Cath1    


   
 
Report this post      
 
Reply by PPP
10 Nov 2012, 12:17 PM

Dear Carrriek (Carolyn)


I read some of my earlier posts and see some of the progress I have made.  Some days it feels like I am still in the same place 7 months ago, but when I look back, I am in a different place and have come to accept most things I cannot change!


 I have overcome some of the obstacles in my way, like the jobs Avery would have done for me.  I am sure you have found this out also.  The hardest part of the grieving process is not having someone close enough to talk about the little day to day things that both you and your spouse would share.  I have been told “I worry too much”, just because I am passing ideas back and forth.  Yes, maybe I do worry, but I also had someone to help me out with the “man” things that need to get done. 


As you stated, I wish there was a support group for widows.  I hope through my rambling, I can give you support as this writing gives me support.  I have a social service with my doctor’s office that is set up for grieving with a councillor.   He actually called me this week to see how I was doing and to see if I needed to talk.  Believe it or not, typing this out has helped me get through the grieving and hope that you do the same.  Have you checked with your doctor about this kind of service where you live? 


We are entering the winter months which I have been dreading because I live on a lake that I need to snow blow the hills on my property myself.  I do realize that my years here our numbered but need to be here just for a few more years.  I want my grandchildren to enjoy the lake in winter and summer and  all that it has to offer. 


We are going to go through the next few months Carolyn with wishes that our love is beside us.  We must remember they would want us to continue living life to the fullest, without shedding tears, and doing the best that we can!  I am trying to continue the same things I did for Christmas that I always have.  It is the hardest thing I have ever had to do, but remember how strong we were when our husbands needed our help when they were sick, the same applies now, only we have to look after us and our families.  That is what will take us to a good place!


Giving you best wishes,


Jane

Report this post      
 
Reply by NatR
12 Nov 2012, 12:02 AM

Dear Carolyn, Jane,

What comforting words Cath1 always has to share.  I am sure that you both feel warmed by her notes.  I wish I could write in the same way, but I also know we are all unique individuals, you two ladies who are grieving your losses, Cath1 who also grieves a loss, and myself, along with others who post notes to the Forum...hoping to help...we all travel a different path, but we all have lost, have loved, and have carried on.

I sense the strength in your notes Carolyn and Jane...and the distinct message that you are both reaching out in turn for support and counselling.

I know you will get through this time...although the length and the depth of it is different for us all...we all deal with hard times in different ways...depending on our personalites, our lives, our connections, so many different ways.

I do know that as an adult, even a senior, I have continued to learn from others, and I find strength in reading your notes ladies, knowing that you reach out and type your thoughts...(which is admirable and I think healing...just getting it down in print) - and I thank you for letting us into your worlds...individually.

I may not answer your notes instantly, but I do read them and think about them.  I hope that in some way it is comforting to know that your notes Are read, that they make me think and I am sure others also...about your situations, your hearts, your feelings.

Be encouraged that one day at a time you will get through the dark days...and the holidays that are painful without your loved one.  Remember as you have said, you were loved and your loved ones would want you to carry on...to be happy, to live life...as we all have an expiry date but it is not readable.  

I hope that I can be like you both...strong, yet so delicate in your hearts, wiser and more thoughtful because of your loss...knowing that each day is ours to spend...as tomorrow may be very different.

Thank you for writing your stories, thank you for sharing your hurts and pains, and most of all thank you for showing us that you are survivors, that love carries you through.  Your partners must be smiling down on you both...glad to know you are talking, sharing, teaching others how to get through the tough times.

In appreciation, and sending hugs,
NatR 
Report this post      
 
Reply by Cath1
19 Nov 2012, 3:04 AM

Dear Jane (PPP) and Carolyn (Carriek):

Tonight as I think of you both, I have no profound words of healing or help to offer. I simply care about you both and hope you feel it. I hope you will keep writing and sharing your feelings. May courage be your constant companion when tears flow.

You are not alone!

With affection -hugs- -hugs- -xo- -xo-
Cath1

 “Words are tears that have been written down. Tears are words that need to be shed. Without them, joy loses all its brilliance and sadness has no end.” 
― Paulo CoelhoAleph


Report this post      


Our Partners
Asked and Answered
Asked and Answered

Find out what Canadians
are asking

Ask a Professional
Ask a Professional

Our team of experts answers
your questions about
life-threatening illness and loss.

Just want to talk?
Just want to talk?

Join the Discussion
Forums

Books, Links, and More
Books, Links, and More

Recommended by our team

Programs and Services
Programs and Services

Find local, regional,
and national services